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Frank Martin Shares COVID-19 Experience
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Frank Martin Shares COVID-19 Experience

Below is a personal message from South Carolina men’s basketball coach Frank Martin on his experience with COVID-19.

Over the last few months, our country and most of the world have experienced an unprecedented medical crisis. The COVID-19 pandemic has taken many lives and has affected many in our community and it has shown that it does not discriminate and can affect any one of us, including me.

Early last month, in preparation for a knee replacement surgery, I took a COVID-19 test on May 8.  Two days later I received results that I had tested positive. I was shocked; I didn’t have any symptoms, other than feeling a bit fatigued, and I immediately entered quarantine at my home.  I’m thankful to say that I did not have to be hospitalized.  

My immediate concern was for my family, who I have been with every single day since mid-March, and if I had infected them; would they develop symptoms, would they have to be hospitalized; the anxiety, guilt, and general angst I experienced after testing positive was overwhelming.  Thanks to God’s will, a week later my family all tested negative, and I’m thankful to tell you that on May 23, my follow-up test results also came back negative.  I can’t thank my wife, Anya, and my children enough for the love and support and care they have shown me. I’m so thankful and appreciative for the wellbeing of my family and my personal health at this time, and I’ve thought and reflected on the many families who have not been as fortunate.  

I’m in awe of the medical professionals and first responders who continue to courageously battle the Coronavirius everyday and I thank them from the bottom of my heart. I’m blessed to work for amazing leaders in President Caslen, Ray Tanner and our University leadership, and I know how incredibly hard they are working to prepare our campus for the months ahead.  I’ve thought so much about our students, the faculty and staff and everyone who make our campus so special.  And I’m so proud to call Columbia and South Carolina home.  This experience is still very raw, so let’s keep being patient as we continue to move towards normalcy.  

We have a responsibility to protect, help and care for each other.  Let’s continue to educate ourselves about this virus, and follow the advice of medical professionals and do what we can to prevent the spread.  Please reach out to your families and your friends who may be self-isolating, particularly the elderly, so they have someone to talk to and someone to listen. Let’s take care of each other and let’s keep those who are suffering from this disease and those nurses, doctors and first responders who are  fighting for us in our prayers.

– Frank Martin

Martin’s Media Availability Transcript (6/2/20)

Frank Martin: Yeah. Obviously, the last four weeks of my life, I’ve been extremely bored, and there’s nothing that I’ve been dealing with professionally, personally, or emotionally to make me worry about anything. But no, obviously, you guys are covering us, I know I’m using a little sarcasm. Last four weeks have been interesting and been interesting personally, been interesting professionally, and then obviously culturally, and everything else that’s been going on that impacts me in my walk of life.

Question: Hey, Frank. Thanks for doing this, first of all, and second, just how are you feeling right now? Is everything all cleared up after your test and getting better from it?

Frank Martin: Yeah. I’d go in for knee replacement Thursday morning, so I’m back to the worrisome part of it, because anytime you get older and they put you to sleep and they’re going to take a piece of your body out and replace it with titanium, it’s an uncomfortable mindset to be in. But I’ve tested negative twice since I tested positive. My spirits are back up, Dave. God helped me and guided me and kept my family negative and allowed me to get to this place without any of those crazy symptoms. But psychologically, it’s a burden and it’s an uncomfortable burden, but I feel good right now, other than the nerves. Emotionally, I’m trying to figure out what’s going on in society right now. But personally, I feel my spirits are good again.

Question: Hey, Frank. Thanks for doing this. I’m glad you are feeling okay now and have gotten through it. You talk about society and what we’re going through. Have you been able to chat with your guys a little bit about how they’re feeling right now when we see what’s going on across the country?

Frank Martin: Absolutely, Pete. I’ve been doing that my whole career. It’s not something that I started last week or two years ago or when the situation in Ferguson. It’s what I grew up seeing, so I’ve been battling this with everyone in my neighborhood because I’m a big believer that there’s two kind of racers in this country. Some people run the 100-yard dash and other people, like me, we run the 100-yard hurdles. It’s what I’ve always said, that some people have obstacles to get to the finish line. Somehow someway, you got to deal with the obstacles and get to the finish line when you come from certain places or you look a certain way. That exists, and I don’t care what anyone says. It’s out there. I’ve lived it. I felt it.

Frank Martin: But I also believe in this country, and that’s where my conflict comes. I believe on everything this country stands for. I believe in the progress that is made in this country during my time on this planet, let alone over the past 100 years. I’ve got internal conflict all the time because there’s a lot of good but there’s also some ugly. I talk to our team about that all the time. The hardest thing with players, especially this age group, is them allowing themselves to let you into their core. That’s the hardest thing there is to do with kids. It’s hard to do with my children. It’s hard to do with my players. It’s the hardest thing to do.

Frank Martin: Like at ’16, we had a conversation that was initiated before President Trump even became the Republican nominee. It wasn’t about President Trump, it was just about the issues that we had because of the killings in Charleston and the situation in Ferguson, and that’s where it started. Sindarius is the one that started it and he basically just said racist, and that’s a hard word. That’s a really, really hard word. It’s just like hate. Hate is a really hard word.

Frank Martin: But we sat in that locker room for three hours, and Sindarius, Duane Notice. Heck, Maik Kotsar, as a freshman, spoke on the topic, even though he’s from Estonia. Those are powerful moments that I continue to have, but the hardest thing to do … That was in Sindarius in his senior year. Sindarius, as a freshman, would’ve shelled up and not said a word. That’s the hardest thing to do, is to get them to allow you into their core so then you can better understand. But you have to have the conversations. If you don’t, you’re failing kids.

Question: What kind of conversations do you guys have regularly with your players about their interactions with police and authority figures, and does it make you angry that you have to have those conversations?

Frank Martin: I don’t think it makes me angry. I think it’s part of continuing to educate. The guy that’s, I don’t know, third-in-charge in the City of Miami Police Department, he and I grew up, same neighborhood, got in fights with each other and fights with everyone else, did wrong, got in trouble together, and we both became teachers together. He became a coach just like me, but then he chose to become a police officer because he felt that would be a bigger calling for what he was trying to do. He’s one of me. He speaks to me like we’re still 18 years old. I had him speak to our team a couple of days ago on June. He asked our coaches on our team.

Frank Martin: He said, “What is the second leading cause of police officers getting killed?” None of us knew. He said a routine traffic stop, and that blew me away. That tells me that it’s a big responsibility of mine to make all my players, whether they’re white or black, because we can get stopped for an expired tag, we can get stopped for speeding, we can get stopped for reckless driving, we can get stopped for racial profiling. We can get stopped for any of those reasons.

Frank Martin: When that police officer stops us, he’s on edge because he knows that that is a moment where a majority of police officers get shot and killed, or get killed, period. We have to learn how to diffuse that moment. Do I get mad? I don’t think I get mad. I think it’s our journey, Pete. We have to educate, man. We want to listen to one side, but sometimes we don’t listen to the other, and that’s what creates anger. Anger is when voices go upon deaf ears. I think it’s a duty and it’s a responsibility. The part that’s sad is the racial profile.

Frank Martin: Udonis Haslem, who obviously I’ve got an unbelievable relationship with and respect for the man that he’s become, he said something at a situation that he went to Miami to try and calm the waters a little bit. He said, “The badge is not the one with the hate. It’s the soul of the man that has hate, and that man had hate, not the badge. Don’t blame the badge, man.” But there’s a lot of things that need to be worked on, whether it’s police training or whatever it may be, to stop the racial profiling when it comes to police officers.

Frank Martin: But, Pete, I’ll leave you with this one. The reason I’m still here is because police officers took care of the kids in the neighborhood. Without them, we’d get in trouble. There’s a lot more good than bad. I know that to my core. I’ve experienced it. I’ve experienced the ugly, too. I’ve been racially profiled as a driver in a car, so I understand. But I’ve been protected and helped by police officers so many more times. We got to stand up and fix the problems, but don’t get this twisted. I’m madly in love with the country and what that badge stands for for the majority of police officers.

Question: I saw some of your guys retweet a few things and post some stuff on social media. What are they feeling right now? How are they … Really, what their feeling to you and what have those conversations been like with them about processing that emotion?

Frank Martin: I’m trying to get them to speak, Collin. We got a Zoom call tomorrow. I’m going to tell them, like, “You guys are so quiet on our Zoom call, but yet you’re on social media retweeting and sending these subliminal messages. Awesome. Share them with me, man. Share them with me so I can help. You can’t give me a blank stare.” That’s the part that I can only explain to you the journey I’ve been on. I was a grown man.

Frank Martin: Anthony Grant, the head coach at Dayton, we’ve been best of friends forever. I never knew until we were both successful men some of the fears that he lived with, and we were together every day. I started learning, because I know what he’s about, I know what his family is about, I know who he is to his core, and he’s got nothing but love for people. But there’s certain fears that I learned from him when we were both grown men. It’s important that we communicate that to the people that are around us so we can best understand one another, and that’s the biggest the deal.

Frank Martin: I get the frustration part. I used to be a have-not. I was a have-not for the majority of my life. Now, because I’m a head coach, everyone thinks I’m a have. The only thing that we have in common, it’s what I try to tell players, is the people that come from the have-not place, the only reason you then get labeled as a have is either you’re athletically gifted, you have an unbelievable ability to make people laugh, you’re a great singer/performer, not actor, or you go to college like the actors do, or at least a majority of them. Then you get an education and then you learn to coexist and express yourself and learn to respect others and then they respect you and then you move forward and then you get a seat at the table.

Frank Martin: Those are the conversations I try to have with players to make them understand, and that’s where my analogy of the race comes from. Some people run the race without anything in front of them, some of us have to get over, through, and under objects to get to the finish line, and it’s part of it. It’s better now than it was 20 years ago. It’s better now than it was 10 years ago. Heck, it’s better now than it was five years ago when everything happened in Ferguson. The number of issues with police officers, and especially black males, that number continues to go down because the police departments are working at education. But unfortunately, we’re still close enough to the bad, that there’s some folks that still have that hatred in them, and we got to keep trying to figure out a way to eradicate that and drown that. It’s what I try to tell the players, Collin. That’s the conversation that I try to create with them.

Question: Wanted to ask just how important do you think it is for coaches to use their platform, if they so choose, to speak out on issues of social justice and race in this country?

Frank Martin: I think we all have to be comfortable in doing whatever it is that we need to do. What doesn’t work is if you do feel a certain way and you keep your mouth shut or you speak in a phony way. Phoniness doesn’t work. You know where anger comes from? When you make someone think that you’re doing something to help them and in reality, you’re just trying to trick them through. That creates anger on the other side. Phoniness don’t work.

Frank Martin: I think we’re leader of young people. I don’t try to educate my black players differently than my white players or my Estonian players. That’s when my wife and I wrote that letter, that’s why we shared that comment on there. In sports, we’re so consumed with learning from each other, and especially in team sports, how much we need each other to find success together, that we don’t look at each other as black, white, Hispanic. We learn to speak each other’s slang. We learn to respect one another for each other’s ways, because we’re trying to coexist so we can all succeed together.

Frank Martin: But I think as coaches, I’m not big on forcing people to do something they’re not comfortable doing. But whatever it is that you think you need to do, like I’m comfortable doing this. I need to eliminate those obstacles that are in my race. I’m willing to listen to others to see what they think, what offends them, what they think they know because, like I told you, I thought I knew everything about Anthony Grant and I didn’t understand some of his fears until we were both grown men. It wasn’t until he told me about it, and it made me understand certain things.

Frank Martin: But I think as a leader of young college kids, especially in our sport where it’s a good percentage of them are African-Americans, I think it’s important that we educate our players and that they know that we are with them and that we are here to help them and guide them and continue to create ways for them to find success, because our duty is to create openings and make that path easier for the next one. That’s what I try to do and, hopefully, if I do it and other coaches are comfortable doing it, it opens the doors for more coaches to step up and speak on this topic, because the players need us to help them. They need us to guide them. They need us to give them and their families a voice.

Question: Three things. Number one, do you know how, where you got the virus? Number two, what’s your latest update on AJ Lawson and his plans? Thirdly, how quickly do you think you’ll fill your staff opening?

Frank Martin: Yeah. Phil, that was my biggest unsettling feeling, is that we, as a family, took unbelievable care of how we handled this whole lockdown. We go to Publix, we took care of what we did, and we stayed away from people. We didn’t go to anyone’s house. We didn’t have anyone over our house. We kept our children in the house. Heck, my wife and I literally had to fight our 21-year-old because he wanted to be a 21-year-old, and we had to make him understand, “If you’re going to be in this house, you’re not getting us sick, you’ve got to stay here.”

Frank Martin: I played golf four or five times during that time. You got your own cart. I played with one of your favorite people most of the time, Eddie Fogler. We all keep our distance from each other to respect the fact of the unknown. When I went to take the test, I was consumed with the knee surgery and I feared having that thing stuck in my nose because I saw the way it looked on TV and it looked barbaric. The last thing on my mind, because we had been so careful, was that I was going to be positive.

Frank Martin: When I got the call two days later, it just floored me. It absolutely floored me. I probably handled it wrong with my family, because I was on the exercise bike working out when I got the call, and my wife happened to be walking out. I told her and I walked in the house and my kids were eating lunch and I just laid it on them like we were talking about going to the park. I freaked everybody out, which compounded the whole problem. But I was freaked out, I couldn’t believe it. No, I have no idea.

Frank Martin: Number two, AJ, the decision to stay and to draft or come back was supposed to be tomorrow. Obviously, that deadline’s been extended to an undetermined date. The NCAA is waiting for the NBA to officially make a decision on their draft. We talk almost daily. I talked to him earlier today. As of right now, our players are due back on campus on June 29th to start the whole testing Putnam bubble and his plan is to be here on June 29th, unless something changes.

Frank Martin: Then the last part, I’ve been having conversations with PC (Perry Clark) for about a month. As coaches, we always keep this list in our back pocket of guys that if we have movement, that we’d like to pursue. I’ve got four or five guys on that list for me. Immediately, as soon as I started getting in those conversations with Perry where I thought this is what he was going to do, I started contacting the top two on that list, and that’s where I’m at right now.

Frank Martin: Timetable-wise, since I’m having surgery Thursday, it’s going to be hard for me to conduct any interviews or conversation. I don’t call them interviews, they’re conversations. I’m not hiring an unknown. Whoever I hire is somebody that there’s an understanding between each other already. But I’m not going to get in conversations with people when I’m on oxycodone and I got drool coming down the side of my mouth. Probably 10 days out from me actually sitting down and saying, “Okay, this is the direction I want to roll in.” But I’ve got a pretty good feel where I want to go with it.

Question: Just wondering if your perspective changed at all after having COVID on when kids should come back, when kids should have voluntary workouts, when you should get the world started again. Did your perspective change after having it?

Frank Martin: Absolutely. Absolutely. I feared it when it started. I said this at the time, I was sitting watching the Arkansas versus Vanderbilt game at the SEC tournament, because we’re playing the winner the next day, and I was uncomfortable sitting there. I went to my hotel room that night and everything I can think of is, man, I don’t know if I want to play this game. I couldn’t say that to the players because I asked them and they all wanted to play, but I was already unsettled. I say this all the time. If you told me I got to walk through some doors and there’s a grizzly bear on the other side, I’m going to take a deep breath and I’m going to go take on the grizzly bear.

Frank Martin: But, if you told me I got to walk through the doors and I got no idea what I’m going to fight on the other side, I walk into those doors in a comfortable way, and this is an unknown. Even with me right now, negative, negative, that’s awesome, this is brand new. Does anyone know what happens six months after you test positive? Does anyone know if there’s a secondary effect that’s going to kick in? Those concerns are still there for me, so yes, that’s why we didn’t bring our players back now, like football’s coming back now. It was available for our players to come back now. I’d rather wait.

Frank Martin: Football, God bless them. They’ve jumped into this both feet in. The players are excited. The coaches are excited. Ray Tanner, the leadership of our campus, President Caslen, they’ve done an unbelievable job on creating a plan to make this safe, and there’s a vision in place. That’s why working for those guys is so awesome because they don’t just draw straws from a hat or whatever. They actually put things in place, and there’s a belief and then there’s a secondary plan. I’m excited to see how the football thing takes place, but we’ll wait till July to figure out how we’re going to handle this.

Frank Martin: But yes, my initial reaction was I can’t wait, I can’t wait, and when I found out, I stepped back and I said, “What am I going to tell parents if their child comes here and gets infected and God forbid, they go home for August and they infect their family?” I don’t know what I’d do. Everything I do with my life, I’d rather be safe than have to call and say, “I’m sorry.” Some people would rather say, “I’m sorry.” I say, “To hell with it, I’d rather be on the safe side.”

Question: Frank, we’ve seen some instance this past week where some young people have posted some social media things they’d probably regret. It happened at USC Cardinal Newman across there. Is that something that you warn your players about or have to take heed of yourself about saying something maybe when you’re angry and then thinking better of it later on?

Frank Martin: All social medias for teenagers is what social was before. They used to go get in trouble on the street, at the mall, at the park. Now, they get in trouble on social media because they stay on social media. When you combine the fact that we’ve had the quarantine going on, they really don’t have anywhere to go, so all they do is stay on social media. You guys have heard me say this before. Social media’s fun, but it’s full of you-know-what, too.

Frank Martin: I spent a lot of time talking to our players, talking to my children about social media. I won’t read my mentions, and it’s sad because every time I read my mentions, the only thing that draws attention is negativity. You can post something positive and maybe three people are interested in it. Now, if you insult somebody, the whole world of social media thinks it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. I’m not into the name calling, I’m not into the living life of insulting one another. That’s not the way I function so I don’t read that garbage. But social media is a powerful place in the world of teenagers and 20-year-olds.

Frank Martin: We have to continuously educate the young people that we’re affiliated with and hope that they don’t make that mistake. There’s a couple of guys on my team. I’ve had conversations with them. I’ve had other people speak to them. There’s certain things you can’t retweet. You just can’t. If you do, you’re jeopardizing your place at this university. It is what it is. There’s nothing wrong with protest, but if you represent whatever organization you’re a part of, if you’re willing to go represent yourself in a way that’s against everyone in your organization, you have every right to do that. But you also have a responsibility to your bosses and you jeopardize getting fired. That’s life. I try to teach that to the players in their use of social media.

Question: Coach, I ask this as a son who had to hear from his dad a few years ago how much he needed to do to help him after his knee replacement surgery. Just curious if you’ve had that conversation with your kids yet, and what are your expectations of them?

Frank Martin: Yeah. My daughter just makes fun of me. That’s all she does. She just thinks I’m the oldest human being put on the planet earth. My oldest son, all he wants to do is because he’s young and buffed up, he’s dying to find out if he can kick my rear end in anything physically, in lifting and anything. It’s always a challenge. Then the little one, it’s … Let me give you a perspective of the little one. I sat my kids down at K State and I told them that I was taking the job at South Carolina and we’re moving to Columbia. My girl and my little one, both ran.

Frank Martin: My daughter started yelling, “You’re the worst human being in the history of the world. I can’t believe you’re doing this to me. I’ll never have another friend in my life.” The little one just took off. About 10 minutes later, he came back and he had all his K State shirts and he put them on the couch and he says, “When do I get new shirts?” That gives you a perspective what my little guy’s mindset’s all about. But I think they’re nervous because they know I’m nervous. When you live with people, you can feel them. You know when they’re nervous. They know I’m nervous about this. I think all their jokes and all that stuff is coming from place of nerves right now because they feel me.

Question: Just first of all, what does Perry Clark mean to you and to this program for however long he was here? When you’re looking to hire a new one, what qualities are you specifically looking for when you’re trying to hire somebody and what are you focusing on during that interview or conversation?

Frank Martin: First of all, PC, what he’s done for so many young people, young coaches, young players, everywhere he goes, they win. There’s a reason for that. He’s an unbelievable human being. He’s got one of the best hearts of any person I’ve ever come across, let alone coaches. All he does is care for people. His first year here, he came in my office. We’re in the middle of the season and I think you guys can remember, we used to lose a lot back then. He walks in my office and he says, “You all right? What are we going to say? No, I’m not.”

Frank Martin: I said, “Yeah. Yeah, why? What’s up?” “Frank, seriously? What do you need?” I said, “PC, I don’t need anything, man.” He says, “Frank, I’ve been a head coach. People only give you their problems. Nobody ever asks to make sure that you’re okay.” I started laughing, and then he sat down and we had a long conversation, and it’s who he is. All he wants to do is help. But I don’t think you replace him. He’s too valuable in what he brought, unique to himself.

Frank Martin: But what do I want from whoever I hire? Just like when I hired him, nobody guessed that that’s who I was going to hire. I’m not into hiring the sexy name that everyone reads online. I’m not into hiring the person that has an ego bigger than this campus. I don’t run around with an ego. I don’t need an assistant coach running around with an ego. I need an assistant coach who’s going to coexist with the guys that we got in place, with not just Chuck and Bruce, but also with Scott and Andy and everyone else that we got in place on our staff.

Frank Martin: Obviously, recruiting is important. I got to find a guy that recruits like me. I’m not going to cheat so I can’t go get me a guy that’s going to be a hustler that’s going to just deliver players. That’s the biggest bunch of grub I’ve ever heard in my life. It’s got to be a guy who rolls up his sleeve and he’s willing to recruit the way we recruit, which is patient and not recruit off a scatter report, not recruit off a player ranking list, but recruit the player that he sees develops, grows, and fits into how we do things so that young man can come here and have success. That’s what I’m looking for. Then obviously on the court, I’m big on player development, always have been, always will be. It’s got to be somebody that gets engaged in a workout, in a practice, and has the enthusiasm, the energy to chase these guys around to do right.

Question: You told a lot last year that Scott Greenawalt always gives you a pretty good idea of how your team is going to be based on the work over the summer. Given that the summer is obviously going to look a lot different, do you think you’ll have a feeling of how your team’s going to be before you actually get onto the court in September, October? How do you think that this is going to play out from a basketball on court standpoint?

Frank Martin: It’s the great unknown, John. But the fact that we basically return a whole team, the way we try to do things to create an open dialogue to understand our work ethic, to understand how we do things is so important to try to manage this moment. I have a lot of faith in the guys on our team. I have a lot of faith in the players in place, their character, their talent, their enthusiasm for the uniform, and their love to play the game. I’ve got a lot of faith in that. They get along. It’s not like they’re going to stop getting along because we’re all home.

Frank Martin: But there’s a lot of unknown. This is the way they used to do it before I got into college, which when the semester ended in late April or early May, the coaches said, “Sayonara,” and everyone left and you reported again in August and there was no one on campus in the summer. But since I’ve been a head coach, your whole team’s on campus the whole summer. It’s a little different. It’s a little different, but the unity of our staff I think will be extremely helpful.

Frank Martin: The fact that we got a lot of guys back, like we had a lot of first year guys back, and with all due respect to everyone that’s taking grad transfers and all that, those guys are all used to doing things differently. That takes time. Everyone thinks it’s just a talent. Yeah, talent’s part of it, but talent might get you through the first week and then the crap gets real and then you need everything else on top of talent and the talent gets in the backdoor seat or whatever you want to call it.

Frank Martin: It takes time to build a team because you got to make everything connect and it’s not just a talent thing. There was a lot of unknown. Having to depend on a lot of freshmen, I think it’d be really, really interesting, especially early in the year. But the fact that we got everybody back, I think that we all understand each other and we’ll do our best to adapt.

Question: You always would say you keep recruiting because of the transfer situation. Any indication from any current players of transferring out, any indication of anybody possibly transferring in?

Frank Martin: I hope not, Phil. No, there’s no indication. Everyone’s in a good place. Everyone’s excited. We just had a Zoom call with every single parent last night. They’re all excited. This team really likes it here. They like their role. They like how we do things. They enjoy each other. They can’t wait to get back. This transfer thing, though, is crazy. When guys go to college and they’re in a good mood and they play every game and they still get up and leave and they win and go to the NCAA and they still transfer, something’s crazy. I’m a transfer. You’ve heard me say that before. I’m not anti-transfer. But this dynamic we got right now, I don’t understand it. But no, I don’t foresee us taking anyone in and I don’t foresee anyone leaving.

Moderator: Frank, anything to wrap up, or are we good to go?

Frank Martin: Yeah, no, I’m good. I’ll be out of pocket for a while here. Just trying to put two sentences together when you’re on oxycodone, whatever that oxy stuff’s called, is not very productive. But if you guys need me, I’m here. I pray that the leaders of our community … We worry too much about the leaders of other places. We got to worry about the leaders of our community. We got to make sure that we all unite here and take care of our backyard. You guys are always asking me in recruiting, “Are you going to recruit in your backyard?”

Frank Martin: If you worry about recruiting outside of your backyard, then your backyard burns down and you don’t find out. We got to make sure that our leaders in our community continue to do their part to bring us peace and joy and make us all understand the challenges and make us all understand that there’s a lot more good than bad so we can live with peace because we respect each other. With that, if you guys need me, give me about a week, holler at me. If not, you guys have a great time. Thank you.